I have established that the only kind of plausible deity that could exist would be that of the pantheistic philosophy. Basically, if a god exists, it is equivalent to the universe, and isn't personal in any way. It probably has no feelings towards us at all, really.
I have also established that the universe works quanto-deterministically. This means there is underlying randomness to causality, but when viewed from our level of awareness, things are deterministic in nature. [What we do is completely based on causality or total randomness, both are outside of an "ultimate control" that we may have in a "freewill" universe].
Also, I figure that all human action is ultimately self-serving. Altruism is just a ruse. One performing a charitable act does so to calm any sympathy they may feel. You want to know those you are helping are in a tolerable state of being. You will do what it takes to destroy any potential guilt by "doing the right thing".
No matter what we do, it is caused ultimately by the initial conditions of the universe. So if some deity was responsible for the generation of this reality, then that deity is responsible for what we are doing right now.
Every little electric discharge and molecular process in your brain in ultimately caused by the big bang, or any causal chain that preceded it. This means no matter what you do, you can never be wrong in the eyes of any creator, unless they are willing to punish themselves and even care. Does that fact that we have the ability to care mean anything?
Any kind of apparent "karma" is artificial. "Karma" isn't spiritual or supernatural. It is just a causal/behavior consequence of humans living together. If you are an asshole then people will hate you, if you are nice then people will like you. [DUH!] Ultimately, if we are part of the universe, can we say that any "karma" witnessed is the universe (or god) acting on our behavior? I don't think so. To presume that may be a cop-out. However, there may be something to the basic idea behind this.
Some type of objective morality????....But the morality may have some type of relativity dependent on the form of society that forms it. There would be an equation that would have the type of society as input and morality its output. Even if there is no deity, could the universe itself hold some type of objective morality for any self-aware beings? Of course, we create it ourselves, but since we are part of the universe....holy shit, subjectivity and objectivity have a GRAY AREA!!!
This can't be. This would be a contradiction in definitions. [True can't be false.] Maybe morals are objective in a way. If you take into consideration everything that is occurring and plug it into the afore mentioned equation you will come up with the most efficient option. Is this morality, or just self-serving optimization...or are they equivalent?
I think for all intents and purposes, "optimization" can be used to describe these desires to be "good".
BLAM!
-Chax
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Monday, April 21, 2008
I found God
For real this time guys...
I found God.
I'll allow time for any necessary double-takes....
Well, my friends, it's pretty involved, but here is how I came to this realization....
Now I am a materialist. This means I hold the stance that there is only "one" substance: material. The idea of the immaterial like spirits and souls is doubted heavily, and the notion is held that if such things do exist, they must be made of some kind of material... since we would be able to observe them. To sum it up: everything in the universe is made out of matter/energy (material) to the best of our knowledge, and any other substance that exists should be observable/testable and therefore also material.
I am also a determinist (who take quantum effects into account, so I dubbed myself a "Quanto-determinist" [This idea has some really cool consequences that I will share in another entry]). This means I entertain the idea that every event must have had a cause and if it is uncaused it is purely random. Of course the idea of an event includes our own decisions. Knowing your past (this includes your past from one second ago) is what purely dictates your actions, it is then implied that your actions (and anything else's actions) are predictable by observing the state of things from some previous point in time.
FORMULATION
If E(x,y) is some event where x is its place in the order and y is the number of the event in the causal "web".
E(1,1)+E(1,2)+...+E(1,n)=E(2,1)+E(2,2)+...+E(2,m)
n and m aren't necessarily equal.
This of course throws freewill out the fucking window. Even if you take quantum probability into account. Because events are either causally determined or uncaused random events. So your thoughts are either completely determined, completely random or have components of both. Either way, you have no uncausable control; no real freewill. It is an illusion generated by your lack of knowledge of the future. [Real knowledge of the future could be paradoxial in some cases...but that's neither here nor there.]
"So what does this have to do with god, Chax?"
Good question, me.
Well I have always supposed that if there is god it is probably synonymous with the idea of "the universe", basically the idea of pantheism. I still hold this stance.
Now if you think about the mind or brain from a materialistic and deterministic standpoint (or really any standpoint, if you don't want to think too much about it), your brain formed out of millions of years of evolution (even more immediately, from your mother's and father's food in a matter of 9 months (and over the course of your life)).
Now your brain, somehow, out of all these electro-chemical signals and brain-cell configurations generates "I AM"; what makes you you; your self. Through these causal chains the universe has arranged your configuration and has generated your conciousness and self-awareness. This means the UNIVERSE has generated self awareness...YOU.
You are the universe looking back on itself.
So since you are part of the universe and you are self-aware, the universe is self-aware.
We are the gods we've been looking for all this time.
...but we hardly deserve the title, unfortunately. So my initial claim was merely a ruse.
With no actual freewill, subject to the whims of causality and randomness, we are just a result of happenstance. [eh... redundancy]
We are not in charge of the universe's will, but it is safe to say we are, in a way, it's consciousness(es).
Peace,
-Chax
I found God.
I'll allow time for any necessary double-takes....
Well, my friends, it's pretty involved, but here is how I came to this realization....
Now I am a materialist. This means I hold the stance that there is only "one" substance: material. The idea of the immaterial like spirits and souls is doubted heavily, and the notion is held that if such things do exist, they must be made of some kind of material... since we would be able to observe them. To sum it up: everything in the universe is made out of matter/energy (material) to the best of our knowledge, and any other substance that exists should be observable/testable and therefore also material.
I am also a determinist (who take quantum effects into account, so I dubbed myself a "Quanto-determinist" [This idea has some really cool consequences that I will share in another entry]). This means I entertain the idea that every event must have had a cause and if it is uncaused it is purely random. Of course the idea of an event includes our own decisions. Knowing your past (this includes your past from one second ago) is what purely dictates your actions, it is then implied that your actions (and anything else's actions) are predictable by observing the state of things from some previous point in time.
FORMULATION
If E(x,y) is some event where x is its place in the order and y is the number of the event in the causal "web".
E(1,1)+E(1,2)+...+E(1,n)=E(2,1)+E(2,2)+...+E(2,m)
n and m aren't necessarily equal.
This of course throws freewill out the fucking window. Even if you take quantum probability into account. Because events are either causally determined or uncaused random events. So your thoughts are either completely determined, completely random or have components of both. Either way, you have no uncausable control; no real freewill. It is an illusion generated by your lack of knowledge of the future. [Real knowledge of the future could be paradoxial in some cases...but that's neither here nor there.]
"So what does this have to do with god, Chax?"
Good question, me.
Well I have always supposed that if there is god it is probably synonymous with the idea of "the universe", basically the idea of pantheism. I still hold this stance.
Now if you think about the mind or brain from a materialistic and deterministic standpoint (or really any standpoint, if you don't want to think too much about it), your brain formed out of millions of years of evolution (even more immediately, from your mother's and father's food in a matter of 9 months (and over the course of your life)).
Now your brain, somehow, out of all these electro-chemical signals and brain-cell configurations generates "I AM"; what makes you you; your self. Through these causal chains the universe has arranged your configuration and has generated your conciousness and self-awareness. This means the UNIVERSE has generated self awareness...YOU.
You are the universe looking back on itself.
So since you are part of the universe and you are self-aware, the universe is self-aware.
We are the gods we've been looking for all this time.
...but we hardly deserve the title, unfortunately. So my initial claim was merely a ruse.
With no actual freewill, subject to the whims of causality and randomness, we are just a result of happenstance. [eh... redundancy]
We are not in charge of the universe's will, but it is safe to say we are, in a way, it's consciousness(es).
Peace,
-Chax
Algorithmism
The entirety of the universe is dictated by a master algorithm. All the evidence points to this. The way galaxies form, the way stars orbit, the was gas clouds collapse under their gravity...the list goes on.
Even on a more human scale. People are predictable. Every little neuron firing and every chemical enduced signal is caused by some outside event, if not a memory, then a current event (current meaning something happening at that very moment).
We do things based on our past. Now even if you think "well i'll do soemthing random to disprove you, Chax!" Then you just did that "random" thing to try disprove me... and thus you just did something because of something else...not random, which just further proves determinism true.
Even dice are not random. If when a die was thrown you knew the exact speed the die was moving, how fast it was spinning, what directions it was moving and spinning and what the initial position of the die was, you could predict exactly what side it would land on.
The only reason things seem random and like choice is because we are not omniscient.
Now does this mean I believe in fate or destiny? Yes and no. I do not believe we have a reason for doing things...maening there is no ultimate goal designated by a god or soemthing of that nature. We are simply predetermined by the logics and maths of the universe to do what we are doing. There is no intrinsic purpose. I am typing this blog untimately because of the big bang. Cause and effect times 9308947923849387498374983749384.
Even on a more human scale. People are predictable. Every little neuron firing and every chemical enduced signal is caused by some outside event, if not a memory, then a current event (current meaning something happening at that very moment).
We do things based on our past. Now even if you think "well i'll do soemthing random to disprove you, Chax!" Then you just did that "random" thing to try disprove me... and thus you just did something because of something else...not random, which just further proves determinism true.
Even dice are not random. If when a die was thrown you knew the exact speed the die was moving, how fast it was spinning, what directions it was moving and spinning and what the initial position of the die was, you could predict exactly what side it would land on.
The only reason things seem random and like choice is because we are not omniscient.
Now does this mean I believe in fate or destiny? Yes and no. I do not believe we have a reason for doing things...maening there is no ultimate goal designated by a god or soemthing of that nature. We are simply predetermined by the logics and maths of the universe to do what we are doing. There is no intrinsic purpose. I am typing this blog untimately because of the big bang. Cause and effect times 9308947923849387498374983749384.
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